eta_ta ([info]eta_ta) wrote,
@ 2007-08-01 13:57:00
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Tedious indeed
It's like a nightmare marry-go-round of mistaken identity.

Or are we using some drastically different variations of English? Languages where the same words have completely opposite meanings? Or was it deliberate?

In any case, I give up. What a bore.


UPDATE


"...a kind of discourse I have seen frequently in academia. It is produced by professors who have a grudge against somebody or something. They express their dislike publicly. Other people respond to the professor's statements, expressing disagreement with their factual or logical basis or the ethical system reflected in the statements.

The professor responds to these criticisms, and, over the course of many exchanges, realizes that he is losing in the game of competitive discourse. He stops bringing forth his own arguments and changes tack.

He switches to a form of argumentation in which he takes the words of the people who have argued against his stance and uses their words in his own argument. The very accusations of poor logic, incorrect facts, or inadequate ethics are turned back onto those who made these criticisms of the professor's public statement in the first place.

Those who thought they could carry on a reasoned and reasonable argument with the professor soon find themselves the targets of vindictive vituperation, insult, and libel.
... People who are not professors might simply say, "This guy is nuts," and walk away...
(Anonymous commenter @Dr.Sanity)


I walk away.



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[info]indolentmick
2007-08-01 09:10 pm UTC (link)
I don't really think these tests are an accurate barometer of what they intend to gauge either.

FWIW, I got a 17; average female scientist.

I think I have more in common with an average man than an average female scientist, but there ya go.

I like Dr. Thomas Szasz's theory that those who are "mentally ill" are just people who can't cope with the admittedly difficult task(s) of living their lives. I don't know how that would apply to ailments like autism or Asperger's though-of course, his novel theories are inextricably linked with politicized issues like libertarianism and deinstitutionalization so you have to take that into account.

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[info]eta_ta
2007-08-01 09:54 pm UTC (link)
Well, if NY government subscrived to these ideas ("deinstitutionalisation") when threw mentally ill on the streets, the result proved the theory wrong, don't you think?

Re: the post: I meant not so much the linked post as the very strange thread.

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[info]indolentmick
2007-08-01 10:33 pm UTC (link)
Well, Szasz says his views were misinterpreted-he was more of a libertarian who holds people to their actions than a radical egalitarian who thinks mentally ill people should be treated like the next door neighbor-and Hugh Carey insists that it was never what he wanted. But yeah, the results of the policy speak for themselves in so many different ways.

The thread did seem unusual.

Speaking of blogs you should check this one out:

http://stopthemadrassa.wordpress.com/

My friend Pam is actually going to be interviewed by Steve Malzberg tonight-according to her blog-which should be interesting.

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[info]eta_ta
2007-08-02 12:48 am UTC (link)
Thank you, G. This is a great blog, and Pamela is doing a great service. Does she need any help? I'd love to assist her in any way.

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[info]indolentmick
2007-08-02 02:30 am UTC (link)
Definitely!

She's not the only one involved, but she's one of the leaders of this opposition.

Here's her e-mail addy:

pakay46@yahoo.com

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[info]eta_ta
2007-08-08 01:46 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, I'll send her a letter soon.

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